Unnatural Cloud Formations Over Whangarei October 18

These photos were taken between 7.30am and 9am on October the 18th, 2011 from Woodhill, Whangarei.Note the virtual straight line through the material in the center of the picture above.  This is looking out over the Whangarei CBD from Kirikiri Rd, Woodhill.

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22 Responses to Unnatural Cloud Formations Over Whangarei October 18

  1. Clare Swinney says:

    David Hardy phoned and mentioned that he saw chemtrails being sprayed over the region early this morning. It looks like it judging by the cloud matter.

  2. Johnsonas says:

    Well isn’t that strange – since I last checked you blog this morning, now in Lithuanian sky we’re seeing pretty much the same view in the afternoon, tankers are going back and forth like crazy… F–ckin aluminium bombs or something…

    • Clare Swinney says:

      It was not cirrus cloud. It was aerosol material. I had a better view of it than you. I saw colours in it too, which one does not see in natural cloud material.

      • rossmarsden says:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosol
        “By far the most common aerosols in the atmosphere are clouds, which normally consist of suspensions of water droplets or ice particles of greater or lesser density.”
        And, yes, you do see colours in “natural cloud material”. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_iridescence
        “Cloud iridescence is the occurrence of colors in a cloud similar to those seen in oil films on puddles, and is similar to irisation. It is a fairly uncommon phenomenon, most often observed in altocumulus, cirrocumulus and lenticular clouds, and very rarely in Cirrus clouds.”
        I think you must be privileged to have seen something fairly rare, but still natural and documented in other places.

      • Clare Swinney says:

        It was not water droplets. There was a pink sheen to it in the sun. Is that barium that causes that?

  3. rossmarsden says:

    No, Barium does NOT cause that. I will just quote some more from that Wikipedia page. Didn’t you read it?
    “Iridescent clouds are a diffraction phenomenon cause by small water droplets or small ice crystals individually scattering light. Larger ice crystals produce halos, which are a refraction phenomena rather than iridescence. Iridescence should similarly be distinguished from the refraction in larger raindrops that makes a rainbow.
    If parts of clouds have small droplets or crystals of similar size, their cumulative effect is seen as colors. The cloud must be optically thin, so that most rays encounter only a single droplet. Iridescence is therefore mostly seen at cloud edges or in semi-transparent clouds, and newly forming clouds produce the brightest and most colorful iridescence. When a thin cloud has droplets of similar size over a large extent, the iridescence takes on the structured form of a corona, a central bright disk around the sun or moon surrounded by one or more colored rings.”
    FFS Clare! Get a clue!

    • Clare Swinney says:

      What chemical does cause that? I recall Virginia Silcox, who worked for the US govt, saying she understood that the pink colour was caused by the barium compounds in the aerosols. Also,

      Thank goodness for people with integrity!
      Scientific Evidence from Clifford Carnicom -signficant amount of barium found in atmospheric samples back in 2004.
      BARIUM TESTS ARE POSITIVE
      http://www.carnicom.com/flame1.htm

      This is interesting:
      http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/GRLreview2.pdf

      THE BENEFITS, RISKS, AND COSTS OF STRATOSPHERIC GEOENGINEERING
      Alan Robock, Allison Marquardt, Ben Kravitz, and Georgiy Stenchikov
      Department of Environmental Sciences, Rutgers University, New Brunswick, New Jersey
      Submitted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters
      May, 2009
      Quote: In the past eight years, the U.S. has stood in the way of international progress on this issue, but now President Obama is
      planning to lead a global effort toward a mitigation agreement in Copenhagen in December 2009. If geoengineering is seen as a potential low-cost and easy “solution” to the problem, the public backing toward a mitigation agreement, which will require some short-term dislocations, may be eroded
      .

      Does this explain why we have seen so much aerosol material over NZ since the beginning of 2010?

  4. AnonymousATCO says:

    No just water

    • Clare Swinney says:

      Did you analyse it?

      • Raymond says:

        Did you test it clare before you called it barium? I know you took a water sample last year but not with these clouds.

        And we all know barium cannot exist in its pure form in the air anyway. So what tests do you have that proves coloured clouds do contain barium and thats infact the reason why they are coloured that way.

      • Clare Swinney says:

        I did two tests for barium early last year and both were positive and a Whangarei relief teacher told me one of his friends, who lives up north, (in Northland, NZ), had tests for aluminium and barium done in rainwater. Both were found.
        As mentioned previously, I was advised by scientist, Frances Mangels, that barium should not be in rainwater at all.
        One of the grandfathers of the H-Bomb, Edward Teller, discussed spraying Barium and Aluminium Oxides into the atmosphere for the purpose of changing the weather – “Barium, Aluminum, Thorium, Selenium were to be processed into a sub-micron particle dispensed from high-altitude aircraft, ionized with a specific electrical charge.”
        http://www.bariumblues.com/methodic_demise_of_natural_earth.htm

        Zbigniew Brzezinski, key globalist and co-founder of the Trilateral Commission is quoted as saying “Technology will make available to the leaders of modern nations techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of security forces need be appraised, technology of WEATHER MODIFICATION COULD BE EMPLOYED TO PRODUCE PROLONGED PERIODS OF DROUGHT OR STORM.” – - Brzezinski, Between Two Ages.
        - – this is the same individual who noted that it might be “more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.” – - Brzezinski, American Primacy and Geostrategic Imperatives

        And we wonder why the same elites fan the flames of fear over climate change, with the likes of Charles Schwab (1999 Bilderberg attendee – http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17083 ) being a major contributor to AdCouncil ( http://www.adcouncil.org/default.aspx?id=434 ), a ‘nonprofit’ foundation which put up billboards such as this:
        Climate Crisis Hoax
        (Note the attempted connection between climate crisis and population, and the basic assertion that WE are the problem. Soon we might accept this with enough repetition and backing by such ‘philanthropic’ foundations, and welcome veiled de-pop programs with open arms. I suspect this billboard is operating on many levels of subliminal conditioning – the tickboxes are amazing suggestive psychological triggers within the context.

      • Raymond says:

        Would Hill labs have a good idea what is normal in regards to barium found in rain water?

      • Clare Swinney says:

        Hills? I do not know. What people who work there have to state is neither here nor there.
        Frances Mangels has been working in this area for a number of years and advised me via email that barium should not be in rainwater at all. How did it get there?
        Rosalind Peterson mentiond finding a spiking in drinking water in Al and Ba if I recall after a heavy spraying.

        When The Army Owns The Weather – Chemtrails & HAARP, Author: Bob Fitrakis
        Quote:
        A scientist from Wright Patterson Air Force Base acknowledges that planes are spraying barium salt, polymer fibers, aluminum oxide and other chemicals in the atmosphere to both modify the weather and for military communications purposes. The patent abstract specifically states: “The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the cloud’s ability to rain.”
        Refer: http://www.demonhunter.btinternet.co.uk/armyweather.htm

  5. rossmarsden says:

    So what are you saying? (From the BARIUM TESTS ARE POSITIVE link: http://www.carnicom.com/flame1.htm) The material you see in the sky there is being heated to incandescence, and that is how you can see colours? Really?
    How is it being heated to a temperature so that it is incandescent? How, Clare?

    • Clare Swinney says:

      News station confirms HIGH LEVEL OF BARIUM in chemtrails

      Quote:
      BARIUM IS A HALLMARK OF OTHER CHEMTRAIL TESTING

      CHEMTRAILS: Is U.S. Gov’t. Secretly Testing Americans ‘Again’?
      « on: November 19, 2007, 08:47:50 PM »
      Reply with quoteQuote
      SHREVEPORT, LA
      Posted: Nov 9, 2007 07:46 PM

      http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=7339345&nav=0RY5

      Could a strange substance found by an Ark-La-Tex man be part of secret government testing program? That’s the question at the heart of a phenomenon called “Chemtrails.” In a KSLA News 12 investigation, Reporter Jeff Ferrell shows us the results of testing we had done about what’s in our skies.

      “It seemed like some mornings it was just criss-crossing the whole sky. It was just like a giant checkerboard,” described Bill Nichols. He snapped several photos of the strange clouds from his home in Stamps, in southwest Arkansas. Nichols said these unusual clouds begin as normal contrails from a jet engine. But unlike normal contrails, these do ‘not’ fade away.

      Soon after a recent episode he saw particles in the air. “We’d see it drop to the ground in a haze,” added Nichols. He then noticed the material collecting on the ground.

      “This is water and stuff that I collected in bowls. I had it sitting out in my backyard in my dad’s pick-up truck,” said Nichols as he handed us a mason jar in the KSLA News 12 parking lot back in September after driving down from Arkansas.

      KSLA News 12 had the sample tested at a lab. The results: A high level of barium, 6.8 parts per million, (ppm). That’s more than three times the toxic level set by the Environmental Protection Agency, or EPA.

      Armed with these lab results about the high levels of barium found in our sample, we decided to contact the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality. They told us that, ‘yes,’ these levels are very unusual. But at the same time they added the caveat that proving the source is a whole ‘nother matter.

      We discovered during our investigation that Barium is a hallmark of other chemtrail testing. This phenomenon even attracted the attention of a Los Angeles network affiliate, which aired a report entitled, “Toxic Sky?”

      There’s already no shortage of unclassified weather modification programs by the government. But those who fear chemtrails could be secret biological and chemical testing on the public point to the 1977 U.S. Senate hearings which confirmed 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Later, the 1994 Rockefeller Report concluded hundreds of thousands of military personnel were also subjected to secret biological experiments over the last 60-years.

      But could secret testing be underway yet again? “I’d rather it be something inert and you know something that’s not causing any damage but I’d like to know what it is,” concluded Nichols.

      KSLA News 12 discovered chemtrails are even mentioned by name in the initial draft of HR 2977 back in 2001, under the Space Preservation Act. But the military denies any such program exists.

      It turns out, until just nine years ago the government had the right, under U.S. law, to conduct secret testing on the American public, under specific conditions. Only a public outcry repealed part of that law, with some “exceptions.”

      Mark Ryan, Director of the Poison Control Center, explained that short term exposure to barium can lead to anything from stomach to chest pains, with long-term exposure causing blood pressure problems.

      Ryan addressed concerns by chemtrail researchers that barium could be meant to wear down a person’s immune system. “Anything that causes ill effects on the body long-term, chronically, is going to affect your ability, it’s just constantly working on the body. So from that aspect yeah it’s a potential.”

      Ryan told us he’s conducted research of his own about secret government testing on the public. But he’s still a bit skeptical about chemtrails at the moment, especially considering that his Poison Control Center has seen no calls about barium exposure.

      • Raymond says:

        KSLA found 68.8 ug/L. Thats .0688ppm not 6.8ppm.

        Go back and do the math yourself if you want. Jeff Ferrall made corrections to his report but not before it hit the net and went viral.

      • Clare Swinney says:

        I don’t know if it is the case, but so what if that is the case? Look at the BIG picture. Barium should not be there at all.
        Rosalind Peterson has also won several awards and recognition for her extensive efforts to protect drinking water supplies from toxic chemical contamination in Martinez, California.
        Peterson Quote: In this program canisters are loaded with chemicals and superheated at different atmospheric levels. These canisters contain the following chemicals that could be polluting our air and are showing up with unusual spikes in drinking water supplies in across California (California State Department of Health, Drinking Water Division Water Test Results- Public Records, Sacramento, California), and Arizona: Aluminum, Barium, Strontium, Lithium, Calcium, SF6-Sulfur hexafluoride Note that SF6 is a very potent, toxic gas.”
        Quote:
        We do know that the atmospheric chemicals are showing up in our drinking water (California, Arizona and other states), tree ring samples, and soils. (The U.S. Air Force is releasing, according to their own records, 500 tons of aluminum-coated fiberglass (Chaff), worldwide each year, without notifying the public of the health effects of their actions.)
        http://newyorkskywatch.com/rosalind-peterson-speech-transcript/

      • Raymond says:

        I would like to see more and qualified opinions about if its normal to find barium in rain water. Frances Mangels is heavily biased about chemtrails as are you.

        Start emailing labs.

      • Clare Swinney says:

        If you want to see more, a good place to start on this topic is Clifford Carnicom’s website.
        http://www.carnicominstitute.org/

  6. rossmarsden says:

    There is nothing the reply to my question to you about how you think the cloud material is heated to incandescence to give the colours. The fact is that it is NOT heated at all, and it is not Barium that is the source of the colours. The colours are from cloud iridescence.
    And the clouds are natural cirrus. I provided a link to a satellite image for a few hours later than your photos. The could had moved further east by then.

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